also, the attacks that hackers could make about the defense of america. if they did disfunction eyes the whole system -- dysfunctionize the whole system, what would happen with all the bondholders in america? if you want to get food from the supermarket -- gun-holders in america? if you want to get food from the supermarket, what do you do? host: thanks for watching us from great britain. guest: i think there are lots of folks who are surprised at the pace of technological change. host: part of a cover story, looking at the president pulls a second term, this focusing on foreign policy and thand domestic issues. the president is facing a $16, $17 trillion debt. he is facing a pullout from afghanistan and our role in the world. guest: it is interesting. leadership, what does that mean. if you go back on the eve of the world war, the number of foreign military installations united compare that with, today. it was well under 100. the cold war has had an enormous transforming impact. dwight eisenhower cited all of this in his famous farewell address. i think